President Trump: The Beginning of the End

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  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @Wolfgang said:

    @C_M_ said:
    Over half of America (55%) believe the anonymous letter from one of the White House workers under Trump. Face it, the clock ticks down. CM

    Did you mean the NY Times letter ?? Doesn't look like there was any letter from inside the White House ....
    Have you ever heard about "false flag" operations?

    No, but Tump certainly fell for it. He can't function. He's going crazy in "crazy in Town". Truthfully, anyone who ever worked there could have written it. Trump is so deficient, predictable, undisciplined and petty. The Republican has no further need for Mr. Trump. He can either walk or be pushed out. The fix is in Trump has to go. CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @Wolfgang said:

    @C_M_ said:
    Over half of America (55%) believe the anonymous letter from one of the White House workers under Trump. Face it, the clock ticks down. CM

    Did you mean the NY Times letter ?? Doesn't look like there was any letter from inside the White House ....
    Have you ever heard about "false flag" operations?

    No, but Tump certainly fell for it. He can't function. He's going crazy in "crazy in Town". Truthfully, anyone who ever worked there could have written it. Trump is so deficient, predictable, undisciplined and petty. The Republican has no further need for Mr. Trump. He can either walk or be pushed out. The fix is in Trump has to go. CM

    Except he is doing a superb job and doing what people elected him to do. You can go back to dreamworld (or nightmare world) now.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @reformed said:

    Except he is doing a superb job and doing what people elected him to do. You can go back to dreamworld (or nightmare world) now.

    "dreamworld (or nightmare world)", what a new name for the White House? CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    Except he is doing a superb job and doing what people elected him to do. You can go back to dreamworld (or nightmare world) now.

    "dreamworld (or nightmare world)", what a new name for the White House? CM

    Nope, the White House is getting stuff done.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    Except he is doing a superb job and doing what people elected him to do. You can go back to dreamworld (or nightmare world) now.

    "dreamworld (or nightmare world)", what a new name for the White House? CM

    Nope, the White House is getting stuff done.

    Mr. Trump is trying to get out the NDA with the porn star, her lawyer is going to "hold his feet to the fire". His sins of the past are catching up to him. He hurt too many people to get where he is. It's a good chance Mr. Trump's presidency will end like Clinton's, minus the many years. Regardless, his Party wants him out. CM

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368
    edited September 2018

    Trump is awesome again. Just realized that the US through UNWR was funding Palestinians to basically sit and do nothing and have money given to them. Oh they were in need because 1. They couldn’t work / had no incentive to work 2. Vast amounts were skimmed off for terrorism by neighboring states.

    Trump is ending that double-destructive nonsense. There may be no single better action by America to aid the people living in Palestine (there is No such thing as ethnic Palestinian) than that.

    Trump is amazing. Who will join me in giving thanks?

    Like @reformed said, the Whitehouse is getting stuff done. America is liking him better than any President in decades. Every morning we wake up to more good news.

    —Pity those few who don’t benefit.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @GaoLu said:
    —Pity those few who don’t benefit.

    This attitude is reflective of your President Trump. Is this the spirit of Christ? This explains the southern border actions and taking money from FEMA/the Coast Guards to support ICE.

    For some reason, GaoLu, I expected this attitude from another and not from you. Sad. CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @GaoLu said:
    —Pity those few who don’t benefit.

    This attitude is reflective of your President Trump. Is this the spirit of Christ? This explains the southern border actions and taking money from FEMA/the Coast Guards to support ICE.

    For some reason, GaoLu, I expected this attitude from another and not from you. Sad. CM

    There is nothing wrong with rerouting government funds through proper channels. Trump is not the only President to do this.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:

    @GaoLu said:
    —Pity those few who don’t benefit.

    This attitude is reflective of your President Trump. Is this the spirit of Christ? This explains the southern border actions and taking money from FEMA/the Coast Guards to support ICE.

    For some reason, GaoLu, I expected this attitude from another and not from you. Sad. CM

    There is nothing wrong with rerouting government funds through proper channels. Trump is not the only President to do this.

    Yes! Something is wrong with it! Consider the cause and timing, this makes it wrong. This President has debased the office and himself. Remove this man, America! CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:

    @GaoLu said:
    —Pity those few who don’t benefit.

    This attitude is reflective of your President Trump. Is this the spirit of Christ? This explains the southern border actions and taking money from FEMA/the Coast Guards to support ICE.

    For some reason, GaoLu, I expected this attitude from another and not from you. Sad. CM

    There is nothing wrong with rerouting government funds through proper channels. Trump is not the only President to do this.

    Yes! Something is wrong with it! Consider the cause and timing, this makes it wrong. This President has debased the office and himself. Remove this man, America! CM

    Nothing wrong with the cause (the need for security at the border). Also nothing wrong with the timing (FEMA and Coast Guard said it will not impede hurricane plans). Try again sir.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:

    Yes! Something is wrong with it! Consider the cause and timing, this makes it wrong. This President has debased the office and himself. Remove this man, America! CM

    Nothing wrong with the cause (the need for security at the border). Also nothing wrong with the timing (FEMA and Coast Guard said it will not impede hurricane plans). Try again sir.

    Reformed,
    Your position is supremely gullible and a stock failure to grasp governmental funding. CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:

    Yes! Something is wrong with it! Consider the cause and timing, this makes it wrong. This President has debased the office and himself. Remove this man, America! CM

    Nothing wrong with the cause (the need for security at the border). Also nothing wrong with the timing (FEMA and Coast Guard said it will not impede hurricane plans). Try again sir.

    Reformed,
    Your position is supremely gullible and a stock failure to grasp governmental funding. CM

    How so? I sent you an article from Duke University in another thread showing this is standard procedure and has been for over 100 years.

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:

    Yes! Something is wrong with it! Consider the cause and timing, this makes it wrong. This President has debased the office and himself. Remove this man, America! CM

    Nothing wrong with the cause (the need for security at the border). Also nothing wrong with the timing (FEMA and Coast Guard said it will not impede hurricane plans). Try again sir.

    Reformed,
    Your position is supremely gullible and a stock failure to grasp governmental funding. CM

    Just because you say something doesn't make it so so back it up.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    Dershowitz: Trump White House Should Be Worried About Manafort Deal, "Big Win" For Mueller

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/09/14/dershowitz_trump_white_house_should_be_worried_about_manafort_deal_big_win_for_mueller.html

    Law professor and legal commentator Alan Dershowitz said a Paul Manafort plea deal would be a "big win" for the Mueller probe in an interview Friday. Dershowitz said while Manafort isn't a credible witness, the Mueller team is looking for "self-corroborating information that can be used against Trump."

    Dershowitz also said that it is "too little too late for a pardon" for Manafort by Trump.

    STEVE KORNACKI, MSNBC: Is that [the Manafort deal] something the White House should be alarmed about right now?

    ALAN DERSHOWITZ: Well, of course they should be. There’s nothing that he can testify to that would probably lend weight to impeachment because he didn’t really have close contact with President Trump while he was president. But he did have contact during the campaign. Tough question whether or not alleged crimes committed to get somebody elected president is an impeachable offense or not. We don’t know the answer to that... I think from the point of view of Mueller, this is a big win.


    Trump is going down like the Titanic. Rearranging the chairs wouldn't help. CM

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    Muller is closing in on Trump and family. Would this President serve out his term? Would he cut a deal to save himself, family and his son-in-law?

    Oh, one more house seat won by Dems tonight (California). Total 36 seats. The Blue is true and sure. CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:
    Muller is closing in on Trump and family.

    Based on what?

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:
    Muller is closing in on Trump and family.

    Based on what?

    Trump's moods and anger. CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:
    Muller is closing in on Trump and family.

    Based on what?

    Trump's moods and anger. CM

    So in other words based on nothing. Fake news.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:
    Muller is closing in on Trump and family.

    So in other words based on nothing. Fake news.

    "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but its work is effective". Get ready for Pence as President. CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:
    Muller is closing in on Trump and family.

    So in other words based on nothing. Fake news.

    "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but its work is effective". Get ready for Pence as President. CM

    You realize I am ok with that too right? He's even more conservative than Trump

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    May the Lord have mercy on America. On second thought, Pence maybe in Muller's crosshairs. He's a go alone to get alone. :o CM

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    CD Users, a peek into the real world:

    M. Cohen was sentenced to prison (3 yrs) for during the biddings ["Hush money scandal"] of "Individual # 1" -- Donald J. Trump, current President of the USA.

    • As I have stated before, Trump is an illegitimate President of the USA. The Cohen sentence proves this and incomplete Mueller report. He violated Campaign Finance Spending Funds and lied to the American people. If what is known today was known in 2016, Trump would have never been elected.
    • Also, sexual misdeeds would be Trump's downfall (read my earlier posts).

    "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!" -- (Sir Walter Scott, 1808).

    My Predictions:

    1. Trump will not complete his term as President. If not, at the most, he will be a one-term president.
    2. Trump will resign or be impeached.
    3. Pence will become President.
      • He would select one of the three people to be Vice President:
        1. Mitt Romey (Senator-elected of Utah)
        2. Nikkie Halley (UN [Former Governor of S.C.]) or
        3. Lindsey Graham (Sen. S.C.).
      • Pence would pardon Trump
    4. U. S. House would expose through hearing
    5. NY City/ State will sue Trump over taxes.
    6. Trump's Tax returns will be released (into the public).
    7. Trump's children will be indicted on taxes/business dealings.
    8. Mueller will prove collusion, defrauding the US Gov't, and obstruction of justice.

    I said the above based on the truth that "one doesn't have to eat a whole cow to know that he has eaten a piece of beef".

    Do I wish ill on Trump? I am just holding up a mirror to the real world and Trump's past dealings. If you don't agree with my predictions of Trump's so to be fate, share your own.

    Until then, remember: "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but its work is effective.

    CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:
    CD Users, a peek into the real world:

    M. Cohen was sentenced to prison (3 yrs) for during the biddings ["Hush money scandal"] of "Individual # 1" -- Donald J. Trump, current President of the USA.

    • As I have stated before, Trump is an illegitimate President of the USA. The Cohen sentence proves this and incomplete Mueller report. He violated Campaign Finance Spending Funds and lied to the American people. If what is known today was known in 2016, Trump would have never been elected.

    And as pointed out before, he is not illegitimate. He is duly elected, certified, and installed.

    1. Mueller will prove collusion, defrauding the US Gov't, and obstruction of justice.

    Defrauding the US Government, Obstruction of Justice? Those would be pretty tall orders to prove. We didn't learn anything new yesterday, you know that right? And collusion, even if proved, isn't a crime.

    I said the above based on the truth that "one doesn't have to eat a whole cow to know that he has eaten a piece of beef".

    Do I wish ill on Trump? I am just holding up a mirror to the real world and Trump's past dealings. If you don't agree with my predictions of Trump's so to be fate, share your own.

    Until then, remember: "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but its work is effective.

    CM

    Given all of the information we know now, I am still voting for Trump in 2020

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @reformed said:

    @C_M_ said:
    CD Users, a peek into the real world:

    M. Cohen was sentenced to prison (3 yrs) for during the biddings ["Hush money scandal"] of "Individual # 1" -- Donald J. Trump, current President of the USA.

    • As I have stated before, Trump is an illegitimate President of the USA. The Cohen sentence proves this and incomplete Mueller report. He violated Campaign Finance Spending Funds and lied to the American people. If what is known today was known in 2016, Trump would have never been elected.

    And as pointed out before, he is not illegitimate. He is duly elected, certified, and installed.

    Under fraud to cover up bad press about sexual dealings. He used campaign funds to win the election. It's against America's laws.

    1. Mueller will prove collusion, defrauding the US Gov't, and obstruction of justice.

    Defrauding the US Government, Obstruction of Justice? Those would be pretty tall orders to prove. We didn't learn anything new yesterday, you know that right? And collusion, even if proved, isn't a crime.

    Be patient, it will all come out, very soon!

    @reformed said: "...We didn't learn anything new yesterday, you know that right?"

    It may not be what you want to hear, but please don't say, "We didn't learn anything new yesterday". This doesn't speak well of your comprehension, sincerity, and the ability to connect dots of current events in the real world. Don't do this to yourself or to readers of this forum who may look to you to be reflective of reality, the things, that can be independently verified.

    Until then, remember: "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but its work is effective. CM

    Given all of the information we know now, I am still voting for Trump in 2020

    If he is there in 2020. If he is, in my opinion, it's a wasted vote. This man has proved his disloyalty to America, debasing himself, and the office he holds. The man who claims to be the "law and order president". He proclaimed he will "drain the swamp" (Washington). It turned out he may have drained the swamp, but he filled it with larger and more dangerous creatures. Corruptions, hush money, sex, crimes, lies, insults, misrepresentations, etc. Why would a Christian knowing (now/much later) vote for a man of Mr. Trump's behavior and character? Greater leadership, I think by some, may be required from a Pastor. Do you care about children, unity, love, truthfulness, respect, and decency? These things your President shows little regards. CM

    PS. Love Trump, the man, but don't lose your head or perspective of reality. CM

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    Trump can walk out or be impeached out. He has to go! His administration appears to be the most investigated and corrupted of any US Administration in America's history. It's shameful and a disgrace. Don't take my words, read the facts for yourself. If Mueller Investigation is a "witchhunt", a witch has been found. How could America stand with this man? Regardless, it's all coming to an end very soon! CM-- See below (end).

    A Complete Guide to All 17 (Known) Trump and Russia Investigations

    ORGE SILVA/AFP
    While popular memory today remembers Watergate as five DNC burglars leading inexorably to Richard Nixon’s resignation two years later, history recalls that the case and special prosecutor’s investigation at the time were much broader; ultimately 69 people were charged as part of the investigation, 48 of whom pleaded guilty or were found guilty at trial.

    After three weeks of back-to-back-to-back-to-back bombshells by federal prosecutors and special counsel Robert Mueller, it’s increasingly clear that, as 2018 winds down, Donald Trump faces a legal assault unlike anything previously seen by any president—at least 17 distinct court cases stemming from at least seven different sets of prosecutors and investigators. (That total does not count any congressional inquiries, nor does it include any other inquiries into other administration officials unrelated to Russia.)

    While the media has long short-handed Mueller’s probe as the “Russia investigation,” a comprehensive review of the cases unfolding around the president and the question of Russian influence in the 2016 campaign harkens back to another lesson of Watergate: Deep Throat’s dictum, “Follow the money.”

    More than two years in, the constellation of current investigations involves questions about foreign money and influence targeting the Trump campaign, transition, and White House from not just Russia but as many as a half-dozen countries. Prosecutors are studying nearly every aspect of how money flowed both in and out of Trump’s interconnected enterprises, from his hotels to his company to his campaign to his inauguration. While President Trump once said that he’d see investigations into his business dealings as crossing a “red line,” it appears that Trump himself obliterated that line, intermingling his business and campaign until it was impossible for prosecutors to untangle one without forensically examining the other.

    Obviously, some of these investigations below may—or will—eventually overlap. Many of the players, particularly those like Michael Cohen, may end up central to multiple cases. And the existence of an investigation does not necessarily mean convictions will follow.

    There’s also plenty we don’t know about who else Mueller and other investigators might have in their sights, or who might be cooperating. There’s even a special mystery witness Mueller was fighting in court last week. Notably, most of the open investigations involve known cooperators, not to mention likely millions of documents, telephone calls, recordings, emails, communications, and tax returns assembled by the special counsel and other prosecutors.

    Here’s a complete rundown of the various known investigations targeting Trump’s world from local, state, and federal prosecutors:

    Investigations by the Special Counsel

    1. The Russian Government’s Election Attack:

    • The special counsel moved aggressively to outline and charge the Russian government’s core attack on the 2016 election, which included both active cyber intrusions and data theft by the military intelligence unit GRU and the GRU’s attempted attacks on the US voting system, as well as online information influence operations by the Internet Research Agency, known by the moniker “Project Lakhta.” Numerous threads from this investigation remain unseen—including a possible cooperator inside the Internet Research Agency, Putin’s own involvement, whether any Americans contributed knowingly to the attack, the role of the FSB’s “Cozy Bear” hackers, and whether or how Russia’s expensive and multipronged attack coordinated with contacts between Russian nationals and the Trump campaign over the course of 2016, including the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting. Mueller has also reportedly been investigating the role of late GOP activist Peter Smith, who had apparently tried to locate stolen emails and make contact with Russian hackers. It’s also unclear what has sparked Mueller’s apparent continued interest in Trump’s campaign tech firm, Cambridge Analytica.

    Status: 12 Russian military intelligence officers from the GRU indicted, 13 people indicted from the Internet Research Agency, alongside three Russian companies, and a guilty plea from one California man who unwittingly aided their identity theft. Manafort aide Sam Patten is cooperating with investigators.

    2. WikiLeaks: Whether WikiLeaks’ publishing of the emails stolen by Russian hackers connects from Moscow to Trump Tower itself remains an open question.

    • But a leaked aborted plea agreement from conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi makes clear that Trump associates had at least some advance knowledge of what WikiLeaks was planning to publish. How any of that may connect with looming charges facing WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and another apparently abandoned deal for him to leave the Ecuador embassy in London is also unclear.

    Status: Both Trump aide Roger Stone and Corsi have said they expect to be indicted. Unclear if looming charges against Assange relate to Mueller investigation.

    1. Middle Eastern Influence: Potentially the biggest unseen aspect of Mueller’s investigation is his year-long pursuit of Middle Eastern influence targeting the Trump campaign, which the Daily Beast reported last week might become public sometime early next year. As the Daily Beast wrote, “The ‘Russia investigation’ is set to go global.” The investigation appears to center on the role of the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, which were eager to help the campaign and, in some cases, have business ties to Trump or presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner. Kushner specifically appears to have been a key focus of these foreign efforts: The New Yorker and other news outlets have carefully traced how China, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia targeted the White House senior adviser.

    Status: No public court activity yet, but two key figures are known to be cooperating: Middle East would-be power broker George Nader and Blackwater mercenary group founder Erik Prince.

    4. Paul Manafort’s Activity: What began over a year ago with a sweeping money laundering indictment targeting Trump’s one-time campaign chair—and resulted in his conviction on eight felonies at trial before he accepted a plea agreement on other charges—continues to unfold. In court documents, Mueller has made clear that he’s investigating Manafort associate Konstantin Kilimnik, a Ukrainian tied to Russian intelligence. He may also have interest in Kilimnik’s interactions with another Trump associate, real estate investor Tom Barrack, who has also been interviewed by investigators.

    Status: Manafort’s been both convicted at trial and accepted a plea agreement; lawyer Alex van der Zwaan pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about the Ukrainian work; Manafort associate Sam Patten has pleaded guilty to failing to register as a foreign agent; Kilimnik has been indicted for obstruction of justice. Known cooperators include Trump deputy campaign chair and Manafort business partner Rick Gates, who has also pleaded guilty to his own role in the money laundering scheme.

    5. The Trump Tower Moscow Project: Just days before Cohen was sentenced to three years in federal prison for the eight felonies he pleaded guilty to in August, Mueller surprised everyone with a ninth charge. Cohen admitted that he lied to Congress about the status of the Trump Organization’s pursuit of a Trump Tower Moscow, a proposed project that extended longer into the campaign and proceeded into more serious conversations than previously admitted. The special counsel also noted how the project would be worth “hundreds of millions” of dollars, far more than a normal Trump licensing deal, leading to questions about why it would have been so lucrative. The case also connects the Trump Organization’s business deals, and the campaign, directly to the office of Russian president Vladimir Putin, whose government was at the time busily engaged in the attack on the US election. Moreover, according to statements by congressional investigators and documents released from Congress’s own Russia investigation, other figures, including Donald Trump Jr., may face legal exposure about their own testimony on the Trump Tower Moscow project.

    Status: Cohen has pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about the status of the project and is cooperating with investigators.

    6. Other Campaign and Transition Contacts With Russia: As journalists have pieced together, at least 14 Trump associates had contact with Russia during the campaign and transition, from foreign policy aide Carter Page to would-be attorney general Jeff Sessions. Questions continue to surround many of those contacts, not least of all the Trump Tower meeting in June 2016 that included Trump Jr., Kushner, and Manafort, and which involved hints that the meeting was only “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump,” as the email setting up the meeting first promised.

    Status: Both national security adviser Michael Flynn and foreign policy aide George Papadopoulos have pleaded guilty to charges related to their campaign and transition contacts with Russia. Cohen and Flynn have both provided extensive cooperation to Mueller about the campaign and transition contacts.

    7. Obstruction of Justice: Robert Mueller’s appointment stemmed from Trump’s decision to fire FBI director James Comey and fears that the firing was an attempt to obstruct the initial stages of the Russia investigation. But recent court documents hint that Mueller might be assembling a broader obstruction-of-justice case against Trump, one that could potentially argue that the president’s public statements intentionally misled the public in an attempt to limit the scope of the Russia investigation. Even if Mueller decides there’s enough evidence to bring a case here, it seems more likely to get passed along to Congress for consideration of impeachment rather than prosecuted in court.

    Status: No public movement yet, but court documents point to the fact that at least Manafort and Cohen have provided evidence useful to this case about their own contacts in 2017 and 2018 with the White House.

    Investigations by the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York

    8. Campaign Conspiracy and the Trump Organization’s Finances: Despite the myriad cases unfolding from the special counsel, the White House’s most immediate legal jeopardy increasingly appears to stem from federal prosecutors in New York digging into Trump’s alleged financial shenanigans. Perhaps the biggest political bombshell amid the last three weeks has been the new revelations around Michael Cohen, “Individual 1” (as court documents have identified Trump), and the hush money payments to cover up extramarital affairs in the final weeks of the 2016 election. Prosecutors have written that Donald Trump himself directed the payments—an indication that they have solid documentary evidence that hasn’t become public yet—and have apparently lined up nearly every other participant in the scheme as a cooperator.

    Status: Cohen has already pleaded guilty, and National Enquirer’s David Pecker, its parent company AMI, Cohen, and Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg are all cooperating with investigators.

    9. Inauguration Funding: Late last week, The Wall Street Journal broke word that prosecutors were digging into the record $107 million raised and spent by the Trump inauguration committee, potentially with concerns about where that money came from and where it went, based in part on documents and evidence seized during the Michael Cohen investigation. Journalists have long raised questions about where the inauguration money went, and the FBI expressed concern about the Russian elites who appeared at the event. We already know that at least some shady money was involved: Manafort associate Sam Patten’s plea agreement includes that he helped a Ukrainian businessman funnel $50,000 to the inauguration.

    Status: No public court activity yet beyond Patten, but he is cooperating with investigators.

    10. Trump SuperPAC Funding: Related to the news about the inauguration inquiries was word that prosecutors are digging into the funding of a Trump SuperPAC, Rebuilding America Now, where Paul Manafort also played a role.

    Status: No public court activity yet, but Manafort aide Sam Patten is cooperating with investigators.

    11. Foreign Lobbying: Robert Mueller also handed off information he uncovered during the Manafort money laundering probe to prosecutors in New York. According to news reports, he referred questions about at least a trio of other lobbyists—Tony Podesta, Vin Weber, and Greg Craig—and whether they allegedly failed to appropriately register as foreign agents for work related to Ukraine. Podesta abruptly closed his eponymous lobbying firm last year, and Mueller had previously been interested in the work done by Mercury LLC, Weber’s firm, as well as the law firm Skadden Arps, where Craig worked until earlier this year. Skadden Arps also employed the Dutch lawyer Alex van der Zwaan, who pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about his contacts with Rick Gates.

    Status: Rick Gates is cooperating with investigators.

    Investigations by the US Attorney for the District of Columbia

    12. Maria Butina and the NRA: The guilty plea last week by Russian agent and gun-rights enthusiast Butina came with an extensive cooperation agreement, including the possibility of her meeting with investigators without lawyers present. While the most immediate next target of the investigation appears to be Butina’s boyfriend, Republican operative Paul Erickson—he was sent a so-called “target” letter by prosecutors recently—questions have also swirled about 2016 campaign funding by the National Rifle Association and the reach of Russia into the US conservative movement. Notably, Butina attended numerous conservative events—including the inauguration—and brought 11 Russians to the annual prayer breakfast, was photographed with numerous conservative leaders, and even asked candidate Trump a question at an event early in the campaign, giving him an opportunity to praise Russia.

    Status: Maria Butina has pleaded guilty and is cooperating.

    Investigations by the US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia

    13. Elena Alekseevna Khusyaynova: The alleged chief accountant of the Internet Research Agency was indicted separately earlier this fall by prosecutors in northern Virginia and the Justice Department’s unit that handles counterintelligence and espionage cases, not by Mueller’s special counsel office. Khusyaynova was charged with activity that went above and beyond the 2016 campaign, including efforts to meddle in this year’s midterms. Why she was prosecuted separately remains a puzzle.

    Status: Khusyaynova has been indicted.

    14. Turkish Influence: According to court documents, Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn contributed to two investigations beyond the Russia probe. While both were redacted in his court case, there are strong hints, including reporting by The New York Times, that one of those two cases includes a grand jury in northern Virginia focused on illegal influence by the Turkish government. According to the Times, “Prosecutors are examining Mr. Flynn’s former business partners and clients who financed a campaign against Fethullah Gulen, a cleric living in Pennsylvania whom the Turkish government has accused of helping instigate a failed coup.” Flynn’s own sentencing documents allude to the fact that Flynn handed over voluminous records from his own businesses.

    Status: Michael Flynn’s plea agreement includes some details of the case. Flynn is cooperating with investigators.

    Investigations by New York City, New York State, & Other State Attorneys General

    15. Tax Case: In the wake of a New York Times investigation that found Donald Trump had apparently benefited from upwards of $400 million in tax schemes, city officials said they were investigating Trump’s tax payments, as did the New York State Tax Department. Longtime lawyer and Trump fixer Cohen also reported in his own court filing that he met with investigators from the New York Attorney General’s Office, although the court filings didn’t explain what the investigation entailed.

    Status: Unknown.

    16. The Trump Foundation: The New York Attorney General sued the Trump Foundation this summer, charging it with, as The New York Times summarized, “sweeping violations of campaign finance laws, self-dealing and illegal coordination with the presidential campaign.” A judge just ruled last month that the lawsuit can proceed. Now the incoming attorney general has promised even more wide-ranging inquiries in the Trump business world.

    Status: Case is proceeding, having cleared initial court tests.

    17. Emoluments Lawsuit: The attorneys general for Maryland and DC sent out subpoenas earlier this month for Trump Organization and hotel financial records relating to their lawsuit alleging that the president is in breach of the so-called Emoluments Clause of the Constitution, which appears to prohibit the president from accepting payments from foreign powers while in office. The lawsuit’s discovery phase could push voluminous amounts of information into public view about how foreign governments have funneled business to Trump’s organization, like how the Saudi government evidently purchased more than 500 rooms at Trump’s hotel in DC in the months after the election.

    Status: Subpoenas have been issued.

    Mystery Investigation Underway by Unknown Office

    Redacted Case #2: A second redacted Flynn investigation could be one of the other investigations mentioned here, could represent another as-yet-unknown unfolding criminal case, or could be a counterintelligence investigation that will never become public.

    Status: Unknown.

    Unrelated Criminality Pursued by Other Offices

    Identity Theft Cases: The special counsel charged Californian Richard Pinedo with identity theft stemming from the efforts of the Internet Research Agency to create online fake identities. According to prosecutors, Mueller also uncovered through Pinedo other criminal activity, unrelated to Russia, which has been referred to other offices for ongoing investigation. This approach is consistent with Mueller’s conservative interpretation of his own mandate, only holding on to cases that directly inform the core questions of his case.

    Status: Investigation ongoing.

    Is America still winning? Is this God's will? Is this what you voted for and enjoys? Is this the price America pays for an unfair tax cut? How can Christians support a man and a party that's so complicit and opened to so many wrongdoings? Washington is the swamp at high tide and the "critters" on steroids. The day of reckoning is coming. God is not pleased! Trump has to go, the sooner, the better! CM

  • Bill_Coley
    Bill_Coley Posts: 2,675

    @C_M_ said:
    Trump can walk out or be impeached out. He has to go! His administration appears to be the most investigated and corrupted of any US Administration in America's history. It's shameful and a disgrace. Don't take my words, read the facts for yourself. If Mueller Investigation is a "witchhunt", a witch has been found. How could America stand with this man? Regardless, it's all coming to an end very soon! CM-- See below (end).

    A Complete Guide to All 17 (Known) Trump and Russia Investigations

    ORGE SILVA/AFP

    Thanks for bringing to our attention this compelling summary of the many faces of the president's legal troubles, CM. Excellent find.

    The walls are closing in on Mr Trump, the massive extent of whose personal, professional, and presidential corruption will eventually be revealed, unless he reaches a Spiro Agnew-kind of arrangement in which he agrees to resign the office in exchange for leniency and an end to the investigations.

    It's now clear beyond reasonable doubt that this is the most corrupt presidency in our nation's history, by orders of magnitude greater than even Richard Nixon's. My goodness. Just over the weekend, Rudy Giuliani expanded the time frame in which then-candidate Trump was talking to Russians about a Trump Tower Moscow to November 2016! At at time, we all remember, when Mr Trump assured the nation that he had "no dealings with Russia." My goodness, at the time he asked the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton's emails, he was in talks with them about a business deal... which he lied to us about again and again and again.

    The end is coming. This presidency will not end naturally.

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    You guys make me laugh.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @reformed said:
    You guys make me laugh.

    Namely, because there is nothing you can say beyond, "Amen". And to keep from crying, why not laugh. However, America will have the last word.

    The Republican Party is like the "flying monkeys" in the Wizard Of Oz. They sang and danced, "ding dong, the Wicked-Witch is dead" when little Dorothy [Judy Garland] threw water on her. She melted away under her pointed hat. The same thing will happen when Trump is impeached, resigned or jailed. CM

    PS. The Trump Foundation is being dissolved as we speak. CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:
    You guys make me laugh.

    Namely, because there is nothing you can say beyond, "Amen". And to keep from crying, why not laugh. However, America will have the last word.

    No, because your assertions are absurd.

    The Republican Party is like the "flying monkeys" in the Wizard Of Oz. They sang and danced, "ding dong, the Wicked-Witch is dead" when little Dorothy [Judy Garland] threw water on her. She melted away under her pointed hat. The same thing will happen when Trump is impeached, resigned or jailed. CM

    Right, I doubt any one of those three things will happen.

    PS. The Trump Foundation is being dissolved as we speak. CM

    Which is a shame since the Clinton Foundation (actual corruption) carries on.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    The Political Reprobates (Mr. Trump and The Republican Party) days are numbered. Muller is closing in on the President and his family.

    Everyone caught up in the Trump investigations

    https://www.axios.com/tracking-russia-investigation-mueller-trump-718bc918-984b-4df1-b1a0-5dafff0347b3.html

    1. Convicted:

    • Paul Manafort -- Former Trump campaign chairman

    2. Pleaded guilty:

    • Michael Cohen -- Trump’s former lawyer
    • Michael Flynn -- Former national security adviser
    • Rick Gates -- Manafort assoc., Business partner
    • Alex van der Zwaan -- Manafort assoc., Dutch lawyer
    • George Papadopoulos --Former Trump campaign adviser
    • Richard Pinedo -- California resident

    3. Charged/Indicted:

    • 13 Russian nationals/ 3 entities
    • 12 Russian military intel officers
    • Roger Stone -- Trump adviser
    • Konstantin Kilimnik -- Manafort assoc., Russian aid

    The Trump Administration is a "lame-duck" from this point forward (shutting the government down for 35 days). The Republican Party is coming apart a like an oversized man in a cheap suit. The light at the other end of the tunnel is the train coming directly at Mr. Trump and his minions. I don't wish it but it's the consequences of his past deeds (disrespect/greed). The Republican's reprobation miasma can foul the largest rose garden in the faraway countryside. They will be removed in 2020. Need I say more? CM

    Additional Site:

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/what-we-learned-from-the-first-year-of-muellers-probe.html

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