YES, the Economy IS BOOMING under Trump

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  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @Wolfgang said:

    @reformed said:

    @GaoLu said:
    What planet are you from? I was just there visiting multiple states and let me tell you, that place is a booming success. Everywhere I go my friends tell me the same. My investments are doing better than ever. What planet are you from?

    Planet "I hate the USA"

    you should "reform" your perception ... as what you are saying is plain non-sense.

    No, your disdain for our country shines through week after week. You make it VERY plain and clear.

    @Wolfgang said:

    @GaoLu said:
    C_M_ Sounds like you are not personally benefitting from the great American upswing under Trump. Do you need some help?

    Your statement hits the proverbial nail on its head ... just because a rather few are benefiting does not mean that the economy at large is "booming". At least, C-M is not ignoring or brushing away certain plain facts ...

    Yes he is and you are too lol!

    @GaoLu said:
    "Rather few?" I don't know and have not heard of a single person who says otherwise. Do you? Bill? Dave? Reformed? Anyone?

    Can't fix stupid.

    @C_M_ said:
    The current US Economy is false growth. A crisis will occur in 2020. A double correction will be required. The robber barons will still get away with their ill-gotten gains. They'll end up using their gains to protect themselves from disease and social ills.

    The US "poor" and "middle class" are being raped by the Trump Tax cuts. The rich and big companies are being immorally satisfied. One can't part-take of the forbidden fruit and not suffer the consequences. Oh, America, when will you learn? Republicans used to care. However, greed is a blinder. CM

    Just when you thought @C_M_ statments couldn't get more ignorant.....

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    Poor soul, you are embarrassed, angry, and afraid. Look to Jesus--He will comfort and keep you. Don't fear, dear, man. CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:
    Poor soul, you are embarrassed, angry, and afraid. Look to Jesus--He will comfort and keep you. Don't fear, dear, man. CM

    Not embarrassed, angry that people like you defend criminals, yes, not afraid.

    You need help.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    No, you are not. You don't have to pretend. We all understand. CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:
    No, you are not. You don't have to pretend. We all understand. CM

    ???? I'm not what? Pretending what?

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    Don't worry, enjoy the economy. :( CM

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:
    Don't worry, enjoy the economy. :( CM

    I am, it's great!

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368

    C_M_ please, if you are in financial distress, please let us know.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @GaoLu said:
    C_M_ please, if you are in financial distress, please let us know.

    GaoLu, the stench of your insincerity, of my "financial distress", is so pungent, if possible, it would reach heaven, and sicken the angels. This, I am certain!

    1. I am gainfully employed.
    2. I don't need your "handouts".
    3. I have learned a long time ago to live within my means. When God provides ethical-moral opportunities or gifts to acquire more; it is then, I receive with thanksgiving. This is why I am dealing with my broken computer, as we speak.
    4. Help those who can't repay you-- those at the USA Southern Borders.
    5. I prefer to live on the ash heaps of a city dump than suck substances from a system that finically rapes the lower and middle-class citizenry under the guise of a tax cut. NO, I am not to proud help in time of need, but the source of the help does matter.
    6. You don't have the means or the information if I were in "financial distress". Your offer is a hollow as the little boy's whistle passing a graveyard at midnight.

    In the event I missed your sincerity, thanks, but no, thank you. I understand the fine line between needs and wants. I don't have all that I want but am satisfied that God supplies my basic needs. My wants remain goals to be achieved or supplied as He sees fit.

    Whether your offer is for humor, to gloat, or of a promissory note;
    I am doubtful, because it's unsought.

    It may connote, personal success;
    while a good portion of the US, still lives in distress.

    Please don't take offense to what I wrote; everyone is not in the same boat.
    In the Trump World, this is only a footnote. -- by CM

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368
    edited August 2018

    @C_M_ said:
    In the event I missed your sincerity, thanks, but no, thank you.t. -- by CM

    I and many others are sincere.

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @GaoLu said:
    C_M_ please, if you are in financial distress, please let us know.

    GaoLu, the stench of your insincerity, of my "financial distress", is so pungent, if possible, it would reach heaven, and sicken the angels. This, I am certain!

    1. I am gainfully employed.
    2. I don't need your "handouts".
    3. I have learned a long time ago to live within my means. When God provides ethical-moral opportunities or gifts to acquire more; it is then, I receive with thanksgiving. This is why I am dealing with my broken computer, as we speak.
    4. Help those who can't repay you-- those at the USA Southern Borders.
    5. I prefer to live on the ash heaps of a city dump than suck substances from a system that finically rapes the lower and middle-class citizenry under the guise of a tax cut. NO, I am not to proud help in time of need, but the source of the help does matter.
    6. You don't have the means or the information if I were in "financial distress". Your offer is a hollow as the little boy's whistle passing a graveyard at midnight.

    In the event I missed your sincerity, thanks, but no, thank you. I understand the fine line between needs and wants. I don't have all that I want but am satisfied that God supplies my basic needs. My wants remain goals to be achieved or supplied as He sees fit.

    Whether your offer is for humor, to gloat, or of a promissory note;
    I am doubtful, because it's unsought.

    It may connote, personal success;
    while a good portion of the US, still lives in distress.

    Please don't take offense to what I wrote; everyone is not in the same boat.
    In the Trump World, this is only a footnote. -- by CM

    What planet do you live on?

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @reformed said:

    What planet do you live on?

    "There you go again"! "Johnnie comes lately", seemingly, a slave to freedom than free to comment. Reformed, I have to give you credit. You're sincere with your insincerity. CM

    PS. Enough time has been taken away from the OP. CM

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368

    C_M_, seems like the stress of finances, life is taking you out. We can talk about this. What about your therapy group? Is that helping?

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @C_M_ said:

    @reformed said:

    What planet do you live on?

    "There you go again"! "Johnnie comes lately", seemingly, a slave to freedom than free to comment. Reformed, I have to give you credit. You're sincere with your insincerity. CM

    PS. Enough time has been taken away from the OP. CM

    Oh trust my I am sincere.

    And yes, the OP, the ECONOMY IS BOOMING.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463
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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368

    Apparently not for CM. Not that he hasn't been offered assistance. I suppose most liberals find their assistance from one government socialist hand out or another.

  • My daughter and her family just returned from a vacation in California ... one of her first remarks in a phone call after getting back was the mention of "there are so many homeless people in so many places, in tents along the streets, etc ... we just never hear of it here in Europe. It's a disgrace and disaster and I never believed it when some people said that this was the case in the 'greatest and exceptional nation' in the world. ..."

    The economy may perhaps be slowly recovering from several decades of turbo capitalism and driving the USA economy against the wall and into the deep ditch by regimes and bankster gangsters exploiting the American people at large and turning them into slaves in such a brainwashing manner that the people think they are still free and doing great, when more and more sectors of the population are drowning ... and - in typical capitalist (false liberty ideology) manner - the few who are (still) doing well, are blaming the many for "just not doing the right thing and therefore becoming poorer and losing everything including their livelihood.

    Whether indeed the country can be turned around remains to be seen ... what's needed is basically equivalent to what Putin did when he "inherited" a Russia which had been almost totally robbed and exploited during a decade of the drunk Yeltsin selling it out to Western robber oligarchs ... unpopular measures, but things have since vastly improved in Russia (of course not according to the Western mainstream propaganda which would have rather seen Russia to be a vassal country of the Anglo/Zionist empire.

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368
    edited August 2018

    Yes, there are homeless people in CA. Such a nice place to be homeless. They are there because American freedom allows them to be there. A few are truly needy. There are also endless programs and resources to help them--more than enough. Many could choose differently if they would. I don't see much difference between them and some liberal Democrats. And yes, I spent 8 years working among such people in the US. I know something about them. In defense of Democrats, the organization through which I worked was run by Democrats.*

    • The Democrats who ran the non-profit frankly had no heart for the people, but only the money. They paid themselves extravagant amounts, multiple times for their services to the "non-profit."

    I must give credit to a wonderful Democrat whom I deeply respect and a great President (faults, blunders and all), Jimmy Carter. I recall how he once made provision for the Boat People to picked up at sea and guaranteed resettlement in America if the refugees so desired. He was and is a great Democrat. Perhaps there is more than one.

    Incidentally, I suspect that Carter's character and success is the ONLY reason Clinton and Obama ever became presidents. That era is likely over.

  • [Deleted User]
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    edited August 2018

    @GaoLu said:
    Yes, there are homeless people in CA. Such a nice place to be homeless.

    The point I forgot to mention is that she saw a sever increase in numbers of people in those situations over the last few years ... she lived in CA for 2 years in 2005-2007, and did not remember ever seeing something even close to what it was now ...
    I am not sure where there is ever "a nice place to be homeless".

    They are there because American freedom allows them to be there. A few are truly needy.

    There have always been and most likely will always be some who are in such a situation ... but to excuse one's conscience by "American freedom allows them to be there" seems rather loony It's not American freedom that got many people into a homeless situation or in situations of deep debt ...it has been American greed of a very few who are dominating and steering things in criminal ways so that the once existing "American dream" has turned mostly into an "American nightmare" ....
    I would think there is a reason that in most countries around the world the USA is not regarded in favorable ways ... and the reason for that is NOT envy or jealousy (as I have found most Americans have been indoctrinated to think and believe), but rather their actions toward world hegemony and their attempts at turning countries into vassal states.

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368
    edited August 2018

    Like I said, I worked with them. I recall the homeless guy I worked with for a couple years, who one day got sick of it all, went to Hawaii and got a job. [Happy Note: He did eventually accept Christ as his Savior]

    Further, I have been told many times with minor variations by those on welfare, "You can't make me do this (look for a job to keep getting welfare benefits), I'll just get a job!" And they did. I wasn't very "democrat" about it.

  • @GaoLu said:
    Like I said, I worked with them. I recall the homeless guy I worked with for a couple years, who one day got sick of it all, went to Hawaii and got a job. [Happy Note: He did eventually accept Christ as his Savior]

    Further, I have been told many times with minor variations by those on welfare, "You can't make me do this (look for a job to keep getting welfare benefits), I'll just get a job!" And they did. I wasn't very "democrat" about it.

    I am not talking about such ...as such will always be there ... I was talking about those who have been robbed of their job by the companies they used to work for (just for example). Many jobs by which one could support a family are no longer there inside the USA, and many many new jobs are only in the service field and are not paid enough to support a family, but instead it has almost become the norm that all adults need to work sometimes even more than one job to support a family on a comfortable level (I am NOT talking about those trying to erroneously live a lifestyle not possible for them, but about those struggling to live in a low or middle class setting as it would have been available even only 30-40 years ago.

    And so no one comes out yelling and screaming that I hate the USA, the situation has become the same or is on its way to that point in Germany as well, just as can be seen in any of the so-called Western (USA vassals) countries

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368

    Yes, my heart goes out to those and we can and should so what we can.

  • Bill_Coley
    Bill_Coley Posts: 2,675

    @Wolfgang said:

    Whether indeed the country can be turned around remains to be seen ... what's needed is basically equivalent to what Putin did when he "inherited" a Russia which had been almost totally robbed and exploited during a decade of the drunk Yeltsin selling it out to Western robber oligarchs ... unpopular measures, but things have since vastly improved in Russia (of course not according to the Western mainstream propaganda which would have rather seen Russia to be a vassal country of the Anglo/Zionist empire.

    I'm genuinely curious about the Russian economy, Wolfgang. Which online source(s) do you recommend I consult for objectively factual statistics on such things as the Russian economy's unemployment rate, interest rates, GDP growth, income disparity, etc?

  • reformed
    reformed Posts: 3,176

    @Wolfgang said:

    @GaoLu said:
    Yes, there are homeless people in CA. Such a nice place to be homeless.

    The point I forgot to mention is that she saw a sever increase in numbers of people in those situations over the last few years ... she lived in CA for 2 years in 2005-2007, and did not remember ever seeing something even close to what it was now ...
    I am not sure where there is ever "a nice place to be homeless".

    They are there because American freedom allows them to be there. A few are truly needy.

    There have always been and most likely will always be some who are in such a situation ... but to excuse one's conscience by "American freedom allows them to be there" seems rather loony It's not American freedom that got many people into a homeless situation or in situations of deep debt ...it has been American greed of a very few who are dominating and steering things in criminal ways so that the once existing "American dream" has turned mostly into an "American nightmare" ....
    I would think there is a reason that in most countries around the world the USA is not regarded in favorable ways ... and the reason for that is NOT envy or jealousy (as I have found most Americans have been indoctrinated to think and believe), but rather their actions toward world hegemony and their attempts at turning countries into vassal states.

    Yes, look at California and New York, they will have a lot of homeless because of the way that individual state operates.

  • @Bill_Coley said:
    @Wolfgang said:

    Whether indeed the country can be turned around remains to be seen ... what's needed is basically equivalent to what Putin did when he "inherited" a Russia which had been almost totally robbed and exploited during a decade of the drunk Yeltsin selling it out to Western robber oligarchs ... unpopular measures, but things have since vastly improved in Russia (of course not according to the Western mainstream propaganda which would have rather seen Russia to be a vassal country of the Anglo/Zionist empire.

    I'm genuinely curious about the Russian economy, Wolfgang. Which online source(s) do you recommend I consult for objectively factual statistics on such things as the Russian economy's unemployment rate, interest rates, GDP growth, income disparity, etc?

    It is, and has been for the last 10-12 years, common knowledge how the alcoholic Yeltsin sold out Russia to Western affiliated oligarchs and how the country was just about totally economically ruined when Putin first was elected in leadership position in Russia. It has equally common knowledge that ever since such dealings in Russia were stopped and the country has begun to slowly recover ... One big indicator is the fact that from that time on the USA/NATO led West started heavy propaganda against Russia (they were obviously mad that their affiliate oligarchs no longer were able to exploit Russian resources as before) and more and more Russia was built up as "the enemy of the USA" (something not said during the time when the West almost overtook Russia).

    Next steps were USA enforced sanctions against Russia ... obviously done in order to stop growth and stabilization of the Russian economy and make war on the civilian population (even though, of course, it is never called that ... but sanctions are in effect a war of aggression on civilians in place of a military conflict). By the way, those sanctions have only helped Russia to become independent of imports and self-sufficient in various regards while the sanctions have hurt the economies of the USA vassal countries in Western Europe quite severely in some areas (so much for the "friendship" of USA and Western European countries)

  • Bill_Coley
    Bill_Coley Posts: 2,675

    @Wolfgang said:
    It is, and has been for the last 10-12 years, common knowledge how the alcoholic Yeltsin sold out Russia to Western affiliated oligarchs and how the country was just about totally economically ruined when Putin first was elected in leadership position in Russia. It has equally common knowledge that ever since such dealings in Russia were stopped and the country has begun to slowly recover ... One big indicator is the fact that from that time on the USA/NATO led West started heavy propaganda against Russia (they were obviously mad that their affiliate oligarchs no longer were able to exploit Russian resources as before) and more and more Russia was built up as "the enemy of the USA" (something not said during the time when the West almost overtook Russia).

    Next steps were USA enforced sanctions against Russia ... obviously done in order to stop growth and stabilization of the Russian economy and make war on the civilian population (even though, of course, it is never called that ... but sanctions are in effect a war of aggression on civilians in place of a military conflict). By the way, those sanctions have only helped Russia to become independent of imports and self-sufficient in various regards while the sanctions have hurt the economies of the USA vassal countries in Western Europe quite severely in some areas (so much for the "friendship" of USA and Western European countries)

    I respect your political analysis of the interplay between Russia and other states, Wolfgang, but I didn't ask for your political analysis. I asked for your recommendation of "online sources" of "objectively factual statistics on such things as the Russian economy's unemployment rate, interest rates, GDP growth, income disparity, etc." Do you have any recommendations as to where I can find such statistics?

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Posts: 1,368
    edited August 2018

    @Bill_Coley said:
    I asked for your recommendation of "online sources" of "objectively factual statistics on such things as the Russian economy's unemployment rate, interest rates, GDP growth, income disparity, etc." Do you have any recommendations as to where I can find such statistics?

    If you are "genuine" then try the snowflake mainstay for "objective factual statistics"--Google.

    Pure Billium.

    Why do you always want others to do your work for you and them mock and degrade them for doing it?

    Billium. Rich stuff to one man.

  • Bill_Coley
    Bill_Coley Posts: 2,675

    @GaoLu said:
    If you are "genuine" then try the snowflake mainstay for "objective factual statistics"--Google.

    Pure Billium.

    Why do you always want others to do your work for you and them mock and degrade them for doing it?

    Billium. Rich stuff to one man.

    It's this kind of content in your responses to me, Gao Lu, that serves as an identity check: It assures me that the post indeed comes from you.

  • C Mc
    C Mc Posts: 4,463

    @Wolfgang said:
    My daughter and her family just returned from a vacation in California ... one of her first remarks in a phone call after getting back was the mention of "there are so many homeless people in so many places, in tents along the streets, etc ... we just never hear of it here in Europe. It's a disgrace and disaster and I never believed it when some people said that this was the case in the 'greatest and exceptional nation' in the world. ..."

    Your daughter is very observant and has a heart. You and your daughter are able to discern what so many can't or failed to see, in plain daylight. I am inclined to agree with you. Strange, huh?

    Your daughter is right and so are you. I am sorry she has to see the dark side of, "Making America Great...", the robber barons. The rich and big corporations are America's biggest welfare recipients. They muggers in three-piece suits with tax-cuts on the backs of the poor.

    @Wolfgang said: The point I forgot to mention is that she saw a sever increase in numbers of people in those situations over the last few years ... she lived in CA for 2 years in 2005-2007, and did not remember ever seeing something even close to what it was now ...
    @Wolfgang said:
    The economy may perhaps be slowly recovering from several decades of turbo capitalism and driving the USA economy against the wall and into the deep ditch by regimes and bankster gangsters exploiting the American people at large and turning them into slaves in such a brainwashing manner that the people think they are still free and doing great, when more and more sectors of the population are drowning ... and - in typical capitalist (false liberty ideology) manner - the few who are (still) doing well, are blaming the many for "just not doing the right thing and therefore becoming poorer and losing everything including their livelihood. ..

    You make so much sense in your analysis of the US Economy. It's a far cry than the hypocritical, selfish, nonsensical, self-imposed blindness, shameful propaganda-viewed thus far- in response to your posts. America's shame is absorbed into her greed. When poked, she oozes out sludge of hatred and condemnation upon the poor. At the same time, she pollutes the air and the airwaves with the miasma of lies, misrepresentations, and tribal talking points. Thank you for highlighting a slice of American reality that the greedmeisters don't want people to see! CM

    PS. Wolfgang,
    "I respect your political analysis of the interplay between Russia and other states." Suprised?

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