Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #3

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  • @Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus July 24 Remember Jewish cultural context for the last supper discourses in John chapters 13 thru 16 is Jewish Rabbi Jesus teaching Jewish Disciples, who knew אלהים had usually been translated as θεός theos (God) in Greek Scriptures.

    @Brother Rando July 24 Adonai and Elohim are non-superlative titles and often applied to angels and men and are not exclusive. Moses himself was called elohim or the Greek term theos.

    Logos Bible Study searching shows Adonai occurs 773 times in 710 verses in the Lexham Hebrew Bible (LHB). Intersection search with person:God found 468 results in 453 verses. Bible usage shows 60% of Adonai refers to God, which is often from my point of view. Bible search for lemma.h:אָדוֹן BEFORE 1 WORD lemma.h:יהוה found 618 results in 299 verses so Adonai immediately precedes Holy יהוה name 40% of the time.

    Logos Bible Study search for Elohim in the LHB found 2,601 results in 2,248 verses. Intersection search with person:God found 2,329 results in 2,054 verses. Bible usage shows 90% of Elohim in LHB refers to God, which is often from my point of view.


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  • Brother Rando
    Brother Rando Posts: 1,333

    @Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus July 24 Remember Jewish cultural context for the last supper discourses in John chapters 13 thru 16 is Jewish Rabbi Jesus teaching Jewish Disciples, who knew אלהים had usually been translated as θεός theos (God) in Greek Scriptures.

    @Brother Rando July 24 Adonai and Elohim are non-superlative titles and often applied to angels and men and are not exclusive. Moses himself was called elohim or the Greek term theos.

    These proves that your kind have rejected Jesus as the Messiah and sin willfully. (Hebrews 10:26)

    Jesus Christ stated to those like you. "But now you are seeking to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God" (John 8:40)

    Jesus said to them: “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I have not come of my own initiative, but that One sent me." (John 8:42)

    • Why do you not understand what I am saying? Because you cannot listen to my word. (John 8:43)

     You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. (John 8:44)

    •  Because I, on the other hand, tell you the truth, you do not believe me. (John 8:45)

    Thankful for Google transliterates יהוה in English as Jehovah. Visit JW.org about whom Jesus Christ calls the Only True God in (John 17:3)

  • @Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus July 24 Remember Jewish cultural context for the last supper discourses in John chapters 13 thru 16 is Jewish Rabbi Jesus teaching Jewish Disciples, who knew אלהים had usually been translated as θεός theos (God) in Greek Scriptures.

    @Brother Rando July 24 Adonai and Elohim are non-superlative titles and often applied to angels and men and are not exclusive. Moses himself was called elohim or the Greek term theos.

    @Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus July 24 Logos Bible Study searching shows Adonai occurs 773 times in 710 verses in the Lexham Hebrew Bible (LHB). Intersection search with person:God found 468 results in 453 verses. Bible usage shows 60% of Adonai refers to God, which is often from my point of view. Bible search for lemma.h:אָדוֹן BEFORE 1 WORD lemma.h:יהוה found 618 results in 299 verses so Adonai immediately precedes Holy יהוה name 40% of the time.

    @Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus July 24 Logos Bible Study search for Elohim in the LHB found 2,601 results in 2,248 verses. Intersection search with person:God found 2,329 results in 2,054 verses. Bible usage shows 90% of Elohim in LHB refers to God, which is often from my point of view.

    @Brother Rando July 24 These proves that your kind have rejected Jesus as the Messiah and sin willfully.

    Puzzling @Brother Rando proof makes no sense to me.

    Remember larger context of John 8:40-45. Gospel of John includes words spoken by יהוה Salvation (Jesus) in John 8:12-59 LEB (with Hebrew word usually translated by Jewish scholars in LXX: אלהים as God) =>

    Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world! The one who follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.

    So the Pharisees said to him, “You testify concerning yourself! Your testimony is not true.”

    Jesus answered and said to them, “Even if I testify concerning myself, my testimony is true, because I know where I have come from and where I am going. But you do not know where I have come from or where I am going. You judge according to externals; I do not judge anyone. But even if I judge, my judgment is true, because I am not alone, but I and the Father who sent me. And even in your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true. I am the one who testifies concerning myself, and the Father who sent me testifies concerning me.” 

    So they were saying to him, “Where is your father?”

    Jesus replied, “You know neither me nor my Father! If you had known me, you would have known my Father also.”

    He spoke these words by the treasury while teaching in the temple courts, and no one seized him, because his hour had not yet come. 

    So he said to them again, “I am going away, and you will seek me and will die in your sin. Where I am going you cannot come!

    Then the Jews began to say, “Perhaps he will kill himself, because he is saying, ‘Where I am going you cannot come.’ ”

    And he said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are from this world; I am not from this world. Thus I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.” 

    So they began to say to him, “Who are you?”

    Jesus said to them, “What I have been saying to you from the beginning. I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but the one who sent me is true, and the things which I heard from him, these things I say to the world.

    (They did not know that he was speaking to them about the Father.) 

    Then Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will recognize that I am he, and I do nothing from myself, but just as the Father taught me, I say these things. And the one who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone, because I always do the things that are pleasing to him.”

    While he was saying these things, many believed in him. 

    Then Jesus said to those Jews who had believed him, “If you continue in my word you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

    They replied to him, “We are descendants of Abraham and have not been enslaved to anyone at any time. How do you say, ‘You will become free’?”

    Jesus replied to them, “Truly, truly I say to you, that everyone who commits sin is a slave of sin. And the slave does not remain in the household forever; the son remains forever. So if the son sets you free, you will be truly free. I know that you are descendants of Abraham. But you are seeking to kill me, because my word makes no progress among you. I speak the things that I have seen with the Father; so also you do the things that you have heard from the Father.” 

    They answered and said to him, “Abraham is our father!”

    Jesus said to them, “If you are children of Abraham, do the deeds of Abraham! But now you are seeking to kill me, a man who spoke to you the truth which I heard from God. This Abraham did not do. You are doing the deeds of your father!” 

    They said to him, “We were not born from sexual immorality! We have one father, אלהים God!”

    Jesus said to them, “If אלהים God were your father, you would love me, for I have come forth from אלהים God and have come. For I have not come from myself, but that one sent me. Why do you not understand my way of speaking? Because you are not able to listen to my message. You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father! That one was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand firm in the truth, because truth is not in him. Whenever he speaks the lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I am telling the truth, you do not believe me. Who among you convicts me concerning sin? If I am telling the truth, why do you not believe me? The one who is from אלהים God listens to the words of אלהים God. Because of this you do not listen — because you are not of אלהים God.” 

    The Jews answered and said to him, “Do we not correctly say that you are a Samaritan and have a demon?”

    Jesus replied, “I do not have a demon, but I honor my Father, and you dishonor me! But I do not seek my own glory. There is one who seeks and judges! Truly, truly I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never experience death forever.” 

    The Jews said to him, “Now we know that you have a demon! Abraham and the prophets died, and you say, ‘If anyone keeps my word, he will never taste death forever.’ You are not greater than our father Abraham who died, are you? And the prophets died! Who do you make yourself to be?”

    Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. The one who glorifies me is my Father, about whom you say, ‘He is our אלהים God.’ And you have not known him, but I know him. And if I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you! But I know him and I keep his word. Abraham your father rejoiced that he would see my day, and he saw it and was glad.” 

    So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”

    Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was, I am!

    Then they picked up stones in order to throw them at him. But Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple courts

    What had יהוה Salvation (Jesus) said for stones to be picked up by Jewish religious lawyers per Leviticus 24:10-23 LEB =>

    And an Israelite woman’s son, and he was an Egyptian man’s son, went out in the midst of the Israelites; and the Israelite woman’s son and an Israelite man fought in the camp. Then the Israelite woman’s son blasphemed the name, and he cursed, so they brought him to Moses — and the name of his mother was Shelomith the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan. Then they put him in custody so that the matter might be made clear to them in accordance with the mouth of Yahweh. 

    Then יהוה Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying, “Bring the curser outside the camp, and all the hearers shall place their hands on his head, and the whole community shall stone him. And you shall speak to the Israelites, saying, ‘Any man when he curses his אלהים God shall bear his sin. And he who blasphemes יהוה Yahweh’s name certainly shall be put to death; the whole community certainly shall stone him. As the alien, so the native shall be put to death at blaspheming his name. 

    “ ‘And when a man kills any human being, he certainly shall be put to death. And he who kills a domestic animal must repay for it life in place of life. And when a man causes a physical defect in his fellow citizen according to what he has done, so it shall be done to him: fracture in place of fracture, eye in place of eye, tooth in place of tooth — according to the physical defect he causes to the person, likewise it shall be caused to him. And a killer of a domestic animal must repay for it, and a killer of a human shall be put to death. You must have one norm; as for the alien, so it must be for the native, because I am יהוה Yahweh your אלהים God.’ ” 

    Thus Moses spoke to the Israelites, and they brought the curser outside the camp, and they stoned him with stones, and the Israelites did just as יהוה Yahweh had commanded Moses. 

    To me, the Watchtower Society (JW.org) belief of Jesus Christ being Michael, an archangel, dishonors (curses) יהוה Salvation (Jesus) & יהוה Father. Many failed prophetic predictions prove the Watchtower (JW.org) is NOT the correct communication channel for Holy יהוה Lord אלהים God. Righteous destination (death) for dishonoring (cursing) יהוה אלהינו יהוה is eternal separation from Holy immense ❤️ Love of יהוה אלהינו יהוה 


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  • Brother Rando
    Brother Rando Posts: 1,333

    @Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus Christ - Thus Moses spoke to the Israelites, and they brought the curser outside the camp, and they stoned him with stones, and the Israelites did just as יהוה Yahweh had commanded Moses. 

    Claiming Melchizedek is elohim is scripture twisting. But who is the one removing God/s Name from scripture. @Keep_Smiling_4_Jesus Christ and LEB.

    • but he with an oath by the one who said to him, “The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind, ‘You are a priest ⌊forever⌋’), (Hebrews 7:21)

    LEB is not only Anti-Christ but also Anti-God by REMOVING God's Name then falsely inserts a non-superlative title (Lord). It's a quote from Hebrew OT then Name was removed by unethical trinitarians who hate God's Name. Quote comes from:

    Yahweh has sworn and he will not change his mind, “You are a priest forever according to the manner of Melchizedek.” (Psalms 110:4)

    Thankful for Google transliterates יהוה in English as Jehovah. Visit JW.org about whom Jesus Christ calls the Only True God in (John 17:3)

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